Union Enemies

[WonderRod]

As we know the latest COMPREHENSIVE immigration bill was recently defeated in congress.
They actually found enough Anti-AMERICAN, Anti-UNION, Anti-AMERICAN Worker Republicans to pass the bill.

Fortunately, the Democrats still might have a hand full of politicians that actually give a dam about Union Labor. It's just really hard to tell right now.
Anyway the bill was defeated.

I think ALL union members understand by now just what ANY form of amnesty for "Freging Illegals" will do to Organized labor.
The news media, with the exception of Fox and a few at CNN, have ALL turned their backs on American labor and especially Union Labor.
I have complete quit watching ABC, NBC, and CBS for any reason.
I feel if ALL union members "Blocked" those networks from our TVs, we might be able to send our own message to the media.

The fact IS, neither political party gives a dam about Americans in general, AMERICAN WORKERS, and especially Union Labor.
They BOTH want 20 million new uneducated, unskilled, UN-AMERICAN voters sucking up to them.
NOR, do ANY of our politicians give a dam about Social Security or Health Care.
YOU THINK THE BABYBOOMERS are GOING TO LOAD UP OUR SS SYSTEM?
Just wait to see what 20 million ignorant illegal invaders do for our social security system.
(Your children will not have one, or we will all be paying 40% taxes)

The blatant FACTS for American voters are clear!
The Democrats NEED 20 million new voters that are dumber than they are.
The Republicans NEED the slave labor.
No matter how you slice it, these are bottom line in your face facts!

How we going to vote..... Union Brothers and Sisters?
The OLD voting straight ticket Dog.... Don't hunt anymore!


Amnest? NEVER!
I would rather GIVE each one of the 20 million Invaders $20,000 and a bus ticket to their OWN dam country, than to GIVE them amnesty. Let them start a new life in their OWN country!
We could recover the money that would cost.
We will not recover from amnesty for 20 million up front, and millions to follow over the next few years!


my:twocents: WonderRod

[NLI, jwindol]

You'd better start concentrating on getting these people into some sort of union so they'll be working with us instead of against us.They're not going anywhere and there are over 13 million so far.Our unions were built on immigrants and it would probably do a lot of the spoiled,exclusive club members calling themselves union men some good to have their cushy locals absorb somebody who will work for their money.If the fatcat politicians we've got up in the marble palaces would get off their overfed asses and do something towards building up our union strength we might could make some progress these days but they've given up and just riding the clock out til they retire rich and fat on our money while the rank and file goes down the tube.If we had even a third of these immigrants working and paying some dues we could afford to organize some more work in the south and get some of our jobs back.Now, with all the money we pay in we still have to hire organizers to come down from somewhere to try and corner some little piece of our market.Parasites.

[michaeld]

For the life of me, I don't get what folks don't understand about "Illegal".
Yes unions were built with immigrants...... "American SKILLED Immigrants".
LEGAL IMMIGRANTS!
You know..... Stand up Skilled people that wanted to become "AMERICANS", not bring their home country and it's problems here.

We don't need to be badmouthing each other when it comes to foreign INVADERS.

Why is there NOT a Fitters Union in Mexico or other countries we could draw workers from?

Grant amnesty to 15 million or so Illegal invaders, and you will kill America as we know it and especially unions and the PROFESSIONAL CRAFTSMANSHIP we sell.

Will union members as well as Union leaders stand up and say......
"We don't care what this will do to unions and our country's Social Security and Health care, WE only care about the MONEY we can get in the short term."

You speak of these 15 million people working with us insted of against us.
This is almost worth a :Laugh: .
You are most likely to end up with non-union minded, less skilled, people out voting you and me. AND, accepting lower wages and benifits.
You know, like they are doing NOW.


michaeld

[jmichael189]

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[jmichael189]

Michaeld...do you have an opinion on McCains illegal immigrant positions?:Oh Dear!:

[michaeld]

:Laugh: Yeah,
His positions on the issue pretty much suck, just like Obama's do.
This is an issue that warrants much much more public discussion between the average American Citizen, and especially Union Members.
This is one huge problem we are facing as a nation.
As organized labor, I see the Republican Party as benefiting from, union downgrading or busting, cheep labor.
As organized labor, i see the Democratic Party as benefiting from recruited voters, and the union's political leaders recruitment aspirations.

What are your personal opinions on the matter of Illegal Immigration?

[manuelcardenas77]

:Humm...:how do u feel about the "anchor babies",that are all grown up now,and are union members?

[michaeld]

Anchor Babies?